snoop dogg is a fuckin liar, how are u relevant?? tell me doggumentary was half ass...dr dre detox probably sucks, that why snoop said "i cant say anything bad about him"
Snoop Dogg. That's one person in the whole rap game that ain't changed his tone.
Sure he does a few pop records here and there but Snoop pulls it off with his personality. Kate Perry 'California Girls' for example. Great job in lyrics.
wow! sounds like even snoop is doubting dre! a year ago i remember snoop sayin detox is a classic, now he is sayin something else. its funny how he says even if dre made sumthing bad he wudnt say it was bad out of respect! thats no good to hear. wat happened to all the losers on this site sayin S will leak something today? yea maybe now u realize how full of shit S is!
My reckoning of this interview would be not to expect detox anytime soon. Its clear snoop knows that Dr Dre aint happy with the product at the moment and the reception of the 2 singles leaked are evidant of that
totally agree with uzee and HPS on the previous comment. that chat had a lot of fakers, while snoop is not confident in dre, as dre must be confused and desperate to find the sound he needs for detox. i jus hope he can prove us all wrong. but on the other hand its hard to believe songs like mr.prescription and chillin were a product of 10 years of work in the lab. im sure those are the worst of the worst, and he intend to throw those away with ease.
Interesting how snoop share his perspective on how he mantain his style because of the people around him. Does he´s trying to show the separation between dr.dre and D.O.C , mark batson and mike elizondo ? Its sounds like that to me what do you think about it uzee?
yea true, detox is something i still think it would be better than most hip hop albums there, but i understand dr dre wants to attract the young fans, but detox cant be a party record it has to have some real shit, i know your not a g no more but plz put some real shit
I like that Dr.Dre waits to release Detox if it´s not good enough, but the fans are tired of all the delays. Why can´t he update us on the status of the album!? It´s time for the fans to react! If we don´t hear any news about Detox before 21th of April, as many fans as possible should DEMONSTRATE by commenting on the offical site of Dr.Dre!!!
Hey Uzee this is a great example of a cinematic style album right here, songs that connect with each other with a good concept with no fillers, how most albums lost the art of a good album:
A Thousand Suns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iGtty34qU
I like that Dr.Dre waits to release Detox if it´s not good enough, but the fans are tired of all the delays. Why can´t he update us on the status of the album!? It´s time for the fans to react! If we don´t hear any news about Detox before 21th of April, as many fans as possible should DEMONSTRATE by commenting on the offical site of Dr.Dre!!!
I think dre has put himself in a difficult position. It's pretty obvious that the records not done and won't be coming out for some time. He's still looking for the right sound for the record and we can see this by him working with slim da mobster, kendrick lamar and swizz beats. I know he said he wants a new sound for detox but like a few others have mentioned in the past on this blog, he still has to keep the g-funk sound he's known for. Thats what made the other records so incredible and thats what made them classics. I dont think he shouldve released a single or video or even the new website until he was satisfied with the product. Everything feels half assed and rushed now and it maked me worry about the outcome of the record. I'm still looking forward to detox though no matte rhow long it takes. True dre fan for life. PS: For anyone hating on "chillin" give it a couple listens, and remember its an unfinished leak! I think the track definitly has some potential
Like D.O.C said The whole world is watching dre what hes gunna do and how the hell he gunna dig himself out of this. Thats the real talk when he says that u know Dre is making the wrong moves. Ive been waiting on this album damn near seven years and last year he says he's doing it out of obligation, that then told me he aint got them heaters like we thought stashed in the vault. Though i wait and hope!
Detox is obviously not going to meet anybody's expectations. Although I think Mr. Prescription & Chillin are good tracks on there own, it is not what the fans expect from Dre. I'm just going to accept Detox for what it is. If you want to hear some gangsta shit, go listen to the chronic albums.
You crazy if you think there wont be gangsta ish on detox. Stop specualting and read @slimthemobster on twitter. Just blaze nottz stat quo and more are all on twitter with more news then this blog will ever have. Slim said topless is on detox and busta isnt. He also wrote snoops kush verse, not just dres. Go to aftermathmusic.com there isnt a release date yet dispite the confusing video. there should be a twitter list on this blog of everyone who has worked on detox or who has been rumored to work on detox. Even swizz. That would be a great source of info.
Big shock. I commented many times on this blog over and over the real problem with Detox is exactly what D.O.C. said a while ago. That he left, Mike left, and Mel-Man left. Everyone but Storch seems to have ditched Dre from the 2001 days. Those same people who are just as (if not more) responsible for the signature Dre sound and production are gone and Dre is in deep shit because he sure can't do anything himself from scratch. Snoop straight up confirms it in that interview. It's almost a fact.
The guy asked the right question we all want to know, how good is Detox compared to these leaks? Snoop shut his mouth but there's your answer. He looked uncomfortable too even if he was trying to laugh it off and quickly move on. Detox hasn't been coming for years and I don't think it even will at this point, until it gets to another point where he's going to have to put out something - and that day will come whether Dre is ready or not. I'm sure there are some great tracks on it, but this is Dre's last album, and as a legend he's expected to put out one last classic. He knows it but he can't do it, what D.O.C. was completely true, and if Dre can't get there after almost a decade, how is he going to get there now? The leaks are so bad you would think it's just a bad joke or something, good god.
Dre simply ran out of ideas a long time ago and now he's too old and impotent to do even half the album he wanted to after those three finally split from Dre's never-ending bullshit at Aftermath and habit of shamelessly stealing credit. That's just the truth. Nobody inspired and full of ideas to do this album would need almost a decade plus an indefinite amount of time more to do it. It's taken this long with bullshit like "Chillin" being the end product because Dre is done. The only reason he managed to get 2001 out was because Eminem really revitalized and energized Dre and his label those years, Dre was into making a comeback, and he had his people behind him in the studio writing all the shit and co-producing all the shit while he sat on his ass behind a drum machine waiting for everyone else to give him the material to tweak and mix before he put his name on it. I'm not trying to shit on Dre so much because when he's in charge an album is going to be halfway decent, but I think his day is long gone by now. Detox should've come in late '05 when it was supposed to. Everything since then has just been year after year of further proof he has no real motivation or ideas about this stupid ass album even Snoop can't back up. That shit is plain embarrassing for Dre.
An artist need to hesitate and to be not sure by times, I think he need to drop what he have now (shit like topless and kush are acceptable)and we all know that a Dre production will have a minimum of quality in the sound and in the concept.
I think that Dre need to drop it now to have a real feedabck of his fans (because we all saying what we think ... if it's not good or if it's dope) people around Dre (like Snoop here) can never be ojective and say a negatif comment and it don't help Dre in his work process)
Dre might be afraid about negative comments beacuse he is in concurrence with himself (the old Dr Dre) The old Dre had something to tell, he campaigned for the street and told the suffering of the ghetto (he have been inspirated by that. Today the guy is rich for 20 years, he has a family life, it is married, by what he could be inspired today ...?
Dr. Dre must drop is album today and take the risk of disappointing, so it may perhaps find inspiration in hatred or desire to come back ...
The problem is Dre isn't coming back after this album. This is it. In his head, this album will define his legacy, and that's the sort of shit mixed with a guy like Dre, a perfectionist and one really apprehensive and self-conscious about his own music, that tells you why this album just isn't coming out. He wants perfection but he just can't get there even with all the huge help he's been given over the years because the bottom line is this: he's trying to recreate something by himself he could only create with his old team and he knows it.
It's a big shame that people like Snoop, the ones closest to him, won't be real with him about this shit. I understand why but surrounding yourself with yes-men too afraid to be real with what you're doing puts you in this bubble where you end up making dumbass shit like "Chillin'" because everyone around you is saying "oh, yeah, it's dope, this is what's hot now...". I'm sure Dre says he wants his camp to be real but he's so childish about what he does that people think being critical like "nah nigga this shit is awful" will piss him off and fuck up their careers because he is a gatekeeper. He can make or break your rap career with his mood simply by willing it. Dre sits on thousands of records NOBODY hears, when much of them are supposedly really hot, and just shelves them forever. He doesn't put them out on mixtapes or let his fans enjoy anything because he's put himself on this holy pedestal where everything he does is perfect because it can only be perfect. Under these circumstances, nobody as pretentious as Dre can release a last album, and he probably won't I bet. At least not until Interscope literally forces him to put out something called Detox.
What Dre needs to do is turn off his phone, sit only by himself in his studio for the day, and listen his first two albums giving a lot of thought to why these are great albums and those days spent making them. Then while he does that, he needs to understand why he wanted to make Detox and what he was going for when he had that desire. Detox just ended up becoming this album looking to please everybody and not disappoint instead of what it was supposed to be. When you go that route, you end up stuck chasing your tail because you get obsessed with aiming to please everyone rather than putting something out you can just be proud of as it is, and that's where Detox has been the last few years.
He's a great producer but he has a lot of flaws and does things I disagree with, but he's still one of the best. He should just give it up or be real with himself and put out an album he really likes before he puts out a bullshit album just because he wants to please everyone else but himself.
That's not true, Bishop left Aftermath because his album was contractually locked out from being released and he felt stabbed in the back by Interscope as well. He wasn't just let go. His Dre-produced debut album was officially prohibited from being released until Detox was put out. Bishop was all over Detox writing for it and working on it but Dre simply wasn't getting around to finishing it and obviously couldn't do it (and apparently didn't even "feel" like it). When Bishop's first single "Grow Up" hit the radio hard, Interscope sent cease-and-desist letters to stations from playing it regardless if it was their hottest song. So Bishop sat around for years, wondering why he has no career and no album when it was supposedly almost (if not already) done, so he managed to get out of his contract (on some terms we don't know), mutually split and severed ties from Dre/Aftermath who understood why he had to leave and not shelve his entire hype and career over Dre taking all day with Detox, and actually got to take the 700 masters with him from the label. Don't know if it was a good idea since Bishop hasn't been able to release it anyway as he needs to find a distributor, but supposedly it's coming, which is the album I'm waiting for more than Detox.
As far as everyone else, it's a shame but they all bounce from Aftermath for largely the same reason: Dre simply doesn't commit to doing shit for them when it's their turn. He wouldn't even have finished Game's debut had 50 not intervened and really pushed to get it out either. Hittman is all over 2001 more than Dre himself and after the tour and the dust settled, this dude was wondering why Dre doesn't do SHIT for him so he simply had to leave than stay locked in a contract that disallows him from doing anything or being able to release anything. Other names were let go but the bottom line is Aftermath suffers as a label directly because of Dre's habits of not particularly giving a shit about anyone over himself or what he wants to do. He'll produce for Em and 50 because they were making him lots of bank and pleasing Interscope, but if it comes to someone extremely loyal and hard-working for Dre that is a new face and no-name like Hittman, they end up being used and tossed aside. It will probably happen to Slim da Mobster too after Dre gets what he wants out of him and life will go on.
keep reading press releases on why people left.hurry up and wait aside, bishop was out a year before the public found out and theres producers who arent signed anymore that this blog thinks are still around.
snoop dogg is a fuckin liar, how are u relevant?? tell me doggumentary was half ass...dr dre detox probably sucks, that why snoop said "i cant say anything bad about him"
ReplyDeleteSnoop Dogg. That's one person in the whole rap game that ain't changed his tone.
ReplyDeleteSure he does a few pop records here and there but Snoop pulls it off with his personality. Kate Perry 'California Girls' for example. Great job in lyrics.
Much repect for Snoop. He is a a hip hop legend.
wow! sounds like even snoop is doubting dre! a year ago i remember snoop sayin detox is a classic, now he is sayin something else. its funny how he says even if dre made sumthing bad he wudnt say it was bad out of respect! thats no good to hear. wat happened to all the losers on this site sayin S will leak something today? yea maybe now u realize how full of shit S is!
ReplyDeleteThe live chat facility is not being used the way intended it it, which was for fans to have quality discussions about detox.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the case, as some imature people are cloning ID's trying to be me, this other named S or Koolo lol.
Like arodhoopdogg ^^ also said, some of you are just iwating on chat for some leaker to appear and give u a track lol.
After a trial run in my opinion the cat facility is not working in the right way and is removed.
Peacee
My reckoning of this interview would be not to expect detox anytime soon. Its clear snoop knows that Dr Dre aint happy with the product at the moment and the reception of the 2 singles leaked are evidant of that
ReplyDeletetotally agree with uzee and HPS on the previous comment. that chat had a lot of fakers, while snoop is not confident in dre, as dre must be confused and desperate to find the sound he needs for detox. i jus hope he can prove us all wrong. but on the other hand its hard to believe songs like mr.prescription and chillin were a product of 10 years of work in the lab. im sure those are the worst of the worst, and he intend to throw those away with ease.
ReplyDeleteInteresting how snoop share his perspective on how he mantain his style because of the people around him.
ReplyDeleteDoes he´s trying to show the separation between dr.dre and D.O.C , mark batson and mike elizondo ?
Its sounds like that to me what do you think about it uzee?
yea true, detox is something i still think it would be better than most hip hop albums there, but i understand dr dre wants to attract the young fans, but detox cant be a party record it has to have some real shit, i know your not a g no more but plz put some real shit
ReplyDeleteI like that Dr.Dre waits to release Detox if it´s not good enough, but the fans are tired of all the delays. Why can´t he update us on the status of the album!? It´s time for the fans to react! If we don´t hear any news about Detox before 21th of April, as many fans as possible should DEMONSTRATE by commenting on the offical site of Dr.Dre!!!
ReplyDeleteHey Uzee this is a great example of a cinematic style album right here, songs that connect with each other with a good concept with no fillers, how most albums lost the art of a good album:
ReplyDeleteA Thousand Suns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iGtty34qU
Radioactivity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pi2YqIy_94
I Know These Songs Aren't Your Type of Style But There Great Examples On What We Can Hope For Detox! : )
Time to demonstrate?
ReplyDeleteI like that Dr.Dre waits to release Detox if it´s not good enough, but the fans are tired of all the delays. Why can´t he update us on the status of the album!? It´s time for the fans to react! If we don´t hear any news about Detox before 21th of April, as many fans as possible should DEMONSTRATE by commenting on the offical site of Dr.Dre!!!
I think dre has put himself in a difficult position. It's pretty obvious that the records not done and won't be coming out for some time. He's still looking for the right sound for the record and we can see this by him working with slim da mobster, kendrick lamar and swizz beats. I know he said he wants a new sound for detox but like a few others have mentioned in the past on this blog, he still has to keep the g-funk sound he's known for. Thats what made the other records so incredible and thats what made them classics. I dont think he shouldve released a single or video or even the new website until he was satisfied with the product. Everything feels half assed and rushed now and it maked me worry about the outcome of the record. I'm still looking forward to detox though no matte rhow long it takes. True dre fan for life. PS: For anyone hating on "chillin" give it a couple listens, and remember its an unfinished leak! I think the track definitly has some potential
ReplyDeleteDAN
Like D.O.C said The whole world is watching dre what hes gunna do and how the hell he gunna dig himself out of this. Thats the real talk when he says that u know Dre is making the wrong moves. Ive been waiting on this album damn near seven years and last year he says he's doing it out of obligation, that then told me he aint got them heaters like we thought stashed in the vault. Though i wait and hope!
ReplyDeleteDetox is obviously not going to meet anybody's expectations. Although I think Mr. Prescription & Chillin are good tracks on there own, it is not what the fans expect from Dre. I'm just going to accept Detox for what it is. If you want to hear some gangsta shit, go listen to the chronic albums.
ReplyDeleteno heaters stashed in the vault!?!?!? :( i hope he has some..... :(
ReplyDeleteYou crazy if you think there wont be gangsta ish on detox. Stop specualting and read @slimthemobster on twitter. Just blaze nottz stat quo and more are all on twitter with more news then this blog will ever have. Slim said topless is on detox and busta isnt. He also wrote snoops kush verse, not just dres. Go to aftermathmusic.com there isnt a release date yet dispite the confusing video. there should be a twitter list on this blog of everyone who has worked on detox or who has been rumored to work on detox. Even swizz. That would be a great source of info.
ReplyDeleteDre messed up by allowing others to produce his records. That alex da kidd shit was weak as hell. sounds like an eminem pop record
ReplyDeleteBig shock. I commented many times on this blog over and over the real problem with Detox is exactly what D.O.C. said a while ago. That he left, Mike left, and Mel-Man left. Everyone but Storch seems to have ditched Dre from the 2001 days. Those same people who are just as (if not more) responsible for the signature Dre sound and production are gone and Dre is in deep shit because he sure can't do anything himself from scratch. Snoop straight up confirms it in that interview. It's almost a fact.
ReplyDeleteThe guy asked the right question we all want to know, how good is Detox compared to these leaks? Snoop shut his mouth but there's your answer. He looked uncomfortable too even if he was trying to laugh it off and quickly move on. Detox hasn't been coming for years and I don't think it even will at this point, until it gets to another point where he's going to have to put out something - and that day will come whether Dre is ready or not. I'm sure there are some great tracks on it, but this is Dre's last album, and as a legend he's expected to put out one last classic. He knows it but he can't do it, what D.O.C. was completely true, and if Dre can't get there after almost a decade, how is he going to get there now? The leaks are so bad you would think it's just a bad joke or something, good god.
Dre simply ran out of ideas a long time ago and now he's too old and impotent to do even half the album he wanted to after those three finally split from Dre's never-ending bullshit at Aftermath and habit of shamelessly stealing credit. That's just the truth. Nobody inspired and full of ideas to do this album would need almost a decade plus an indefinite amount of time more to do it. It's taken this long with bullshit like "Chillin" being the end product because Dre is done. The only reason he managed to get 2001 out was because Eminem really revitalized and energized Dre and his label those years, Dre was into making a comeback, and he had his people behind him in the studio writing all the shit and co-producing all the shit while he sat on his ass behind a drum machine waiting for everyone else to give him the material to tweak and mix before he put his name on it. I'm not trying to shit on Dre so much because when he's in charge an album is going to be halfway decent, but I think his day is long gone by now. Detox should've come in late '05 when it was supposed to. Everything since then has just been year after year of further proof he has no real motivation or ideas about this stupid ass album even Snoop can't back up. That shit is plain embarrassing for Dre.
An artist need to hesitate and to be not sure by times, I think he need to drop what he have now (shit like topless and kush are acceptable)and we all know that a Dre production will have a minimum of quality in the sound and in the concept.
ReplyDeleteI think that Dre need to drop it now to have a real feedabck of his fans (because we all saying what we think ... if it's not good or if it's dope) people around Dre (like Snoop here) can never be ojective and say a negatif comment and it don't help Dre in his work process)
Dre might be afraid about negative comments beacuse he is in concurrence with himself (the old Dr Dre) The old Dre had something to tell, he campaigned for the street and told the suffering of the ghetto (he have been inspirated by that. Today the guy is
rich for 20 years, he has a family life, it is
married, by what he could be inspired today ...?
Dr. Dre must drop is album today and take the risk of disappointing, so it may perhaps find inspiration in hatred or desire to come back ...
The problem is Dre isn't coming back after this album. This is it. In his head, this album will define his legacy, and that's the sort of shit mixed with a guy like Dre, a perfectionist and one really apprehensive and self-conscious about his own music, that tells you why this album just isn't coming out. He wants perfection but he just can't get there even with all the huge help he's been given over the years because the bottom line is this: he's trying to recreate something by himself he could only create with his old team and he knows it.
ReplyDeleteIt's a big shame that people like Snoop, the ones closest to him, won't be real with him about this shit. I understand why but surrounding yourself with yes-men too afraid to be real with what you're doing puts you in this bubble where you end up making dumbass shit like "Chillin'" because everyone around you is saying "oh, yeah, it's dope, this is what's hot now...". I'm sure Dre says he wants his camp to be real but he's so childish about what he does that people think being critical like "nah nigga this shit is awful" will piss him off and fuck up their careers because he is a gatekeeper. He can make or break your rap career with his mood simply by willing it. Dre sits on thousands of records NOBODY hears, when much of them are supposedly really hot, and just shelves them forever. He doesn't put them out on mixtapes or let his fans enjoy anything because he's put himself on this holy pedestal where everything he does is perfect because it can only be perfect. Under these circumstances, nobody as pretentious as Dre can release a last album, and he probably won't I bet. At least not until Interscope literally forces him to put out something called Detox.
What Dre needs to do is turn off his phone, sit only by himself in his studio for the day, and listen his first two albums giving a lot of thought to why these are great albums and those days spent making them. Then while he does that, he needs to understand why he wanted to make Detox and what he was going for when he had that desire. Detox just ended up becoming this album looking to please everybody and not disappoint instead of what it was supposed to be. When you go that route, you end up stuck chasing your tail because you get obsessed with aiming to please everyone rather than putting something out you can just be proud of as it is, and that's where Detox has been the last few years.
He's a great producer but he has a lot of flaws and does things I disagree with, but he's still one of the best. He should just give it up or be real with himself and put out an album he really likes before he puts out a bullshit album just because he wants to please everyone else but himself.
Noone leaves aftermath, they get let go.
ReplyDeleteSomebody send the above comment to Dre because i cant se any other reason for things to be as they are. It really was fucking spot on!
ReplyDeleteThat's not true, Bishop left Aftermath because his album was contractually locked out from being released and he felt stabbed in the back by Interscope as well. He wasn't just let go. His Dre-produced debut album was officially prohibited from being released until Detox was put out. Bishop was all over Detox writing for it and working on it but Dre simply wasn't getting around to finishing it and obviously couldn't do it (and apparently didn't even "feel" like it). When Bishop's first single "Grow Up" hit the radio hard, Interscope sent cease-and-desist letters to stations from playing it regardless if it was their hottest song. So Bishop sat around for years, wondering why he has no career and no album when it was supposedly almost (if not already) done, so he managed to get out of his contract (on some terms we don't know), mutually split and severed ties from Dre/Aftermath who understood why he had to leave and not shelve his entire hype and career over Dre taking all day with Detox, and actually got to take the 700 masters with him from the label. Don't know if it was a good idea since Bishop hasn't been able to release it anyway as he needs to find a distributor, but supposedly it's coming, which is the album I'm waiting for more than Detox.
ReplyDeleteAs far as everyone else, it's a shame but they all bounce from Aftermath for largely the same reason: Dre simply doesn't commit to doing shit for them when it's their turn. He wouldn't even have finished Game's debut had 50 not intervened and really pushed to get it out either. Hittman is all over 2001 more than Dre himself and after the tour and the dust settled, this dude was wondering why Dre doesn't do SHIT for him so he simply had to leave than stay locked in a contract that disallows him from doing anything or being able to release anything. Other names were let go but the bottom line is Aftermath suffers as a label directly because of Dre's habits of not particularly giving a shit about anyone over himself or what he wants to do. He'll produce for Em and 50 because they were making him lots of bank and pleasing Interscope, but if it comes to someone extremely loyal and hard-working for Dre that is a new face and no-name like Hittman, they end up being used and tossed aside. It will probably happen to Slim da Mobster too after Dre gets what he wants out of him and life will go on.
keep reading press releases on why people left.hurry up and wait aside, bishop was out a year before the public found out and theres producers who arent signed anymore that this blog thinks are still around.
ReplyDelete